[MSA-talk] New mineral description needed

Kolitsch Uwe uwe.kolitsch at NHM-WIEN.AC.AT
Thu Apr 28 14:02:40 EDT 2016

I also observed streakiness in the diffraction patterns. A possible unit cell I found:
C-centred monoclinic, 30.0, 5.16, 9.57, beta = 99°.

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Von: msa-talk-bounces at minlists.org [mailto:msa-talk-bounces at minlists.org] Im Auftrag von Anthony Kampf
Gesendet: Dienstag, 26. April 2016 20:00
An: Daniel Hummer; msa-talk at minlists.org
Betreff: Re: [MSA-talk] New mineral description needed

I checked the material by powder and single-crystal XRD. I can confirm that there is no match for the PXRD. Unfortunately, after numerous attempts at finding a suitable single crystal, I failed to get even a sensible unit cell. There is a lot of streaking of spots, indicating significant disorder in the structure. I suspect that there is also twinning on a very fine scale parallel to the plates.

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I would be interested to know if anyone has tried single crystal measurements at a synchrotron beamline. How thin are the samples? With the high intensity of a synchrotron source and adequate data collection time, even samples of 10 microns or less could potentially yield good enough single crystal data to solve the structure, especially with the presence of a moderate Z element like Fe. I'm sure there are a number of people on the list who could help if synchrotron XRD hasn't been tried yet.

Dan Hummer

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On 4/26/16 12:19 PM, Henry Barwood wrote:
There is a new hydrated iron phosphate mineral found at Girard, Burke County, Georgia that needs analysis and description. It was recognized (by me) as a new mineral 22 years ago and has been looked at by 4 separate groups without success. The problem is that the crystals, while well defined are simply too thin to yield adequate single crystal data for crystal structure analysis. Does anyone on the list have access to electron diffraction or another technique that might be able to solve this mineral? I would really like to see it described since it would represent the first mineral with a Georgia type locality. I have very few specimens of this left but would sacrifice 1-2 if anyone believes they have a reasonable possibility of success. Thanks.

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